Comments on: Realtime streams: now and then http://johnnyholland.org/2009/11/realtime-streams-now-and-then/ It's all about interaction Wed, 05 Jun 2013 06:03:21 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: The Theory Behind Social Interaction Design | Johnny Holland http://johnnyholland.org/2009/11/realtime-streams-now-and-then/#comment-109767 The Theory Behind Social Interaction Design | Johnny Holland Fri, 09 Sep 2011 18:40:24 +0000 http://johnnyholland.org/?p=4569#comment-109767 [...] etc). Time and temporality are organized, too, as in the feed revolution and realtime media. (Realtime streams: now and then) I liken social interaction design to urban planning: the use of architecture for social purposes, [...] [...] etc). Time and temporality are organized, too, as in the feed revolution and realtime media. (Realtime streams: now and then) I liken social interaction design to urban planning: the use of architecture for social purposes, [...]

]]> By: Thomas Petersen http://johnnyholland.org/2009/11/realtime-streams-now-and-then/#comment-109766 Thomas Petersen Thu, 17 Dec 2009 19:39:36 +0000 http://johnnyholland.org/?p=4569#comment-109766 I meant Good post :) I meant

Good post
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]]> By: Thomas Petersen http://johnnyholland.org/2009/11/realtime-streams-now-and-then/#comment-109765 Thomas Petersen Thu, 17 Dec 2009 19:38:57 +0000 http://johnnyholland.org/?p=4569#comment-109765 God post. I think the problem is about something different though. It has to do with what I call designing for the bottleneck vs. designing for projection. I go into depth in this post http://000fff.org/slaves-of-the-feed-this-is-not-the-realtime-weve-been-looking-for/ The real issue is not about now, but about how. How do we get our feeds. The current situation is broken, I am proposing a couple of things in the post. God post.

I think the problem is about something different though.

It has to do with what I call designing for the bottleneck vs. designing for projection.

I go into depth in this post http://000fff.org/slaves-of-the-feed-this-is-not-the-realtime-weve-been-looking-for/

The real issue is not about now, but about how. How do we get our feeds. The current situation is broken, I am proposing a couple of things in the post.

]]> By: william smith http://johnnyholland.org/2009/11/realtime-streams-now-and-then/#comment-109764 william smith Mon, 30 Nov 2009 22:33:56 +0000 http://johnnyholland.org/?p=4569#comment-109764 Think you made some good points, but what is missing is a solution. Or, is this distortion (as you say) really a problem that needs solving? In any case, it was an interesting read. William Think you made some good points, but what is missing is a solution. Or, is this distortion (as you say) really a problem that needs solving?

In any case, it was an interesting read.

William

]]> By: Adrian Chan http://johnnyholland.org/2009/11/realtime-streams-now-and-then/#comment-109763 Adrian Chan Tue, 24 Nov 2009 05:55:52 +0000 http://johnnyholland.org/?p=4569#comment-109763 I think the gist of my post was more on the user experience, and on attention and flow -- emphasis on how we experience time, that when we use realtime media it's always w/ an immediacy, and that in realtime media this immediacy is sometimes accompanied by a higher expectation of the oher's presence. Time that is captured as history, in other words, would be a different matter, as it comes with no expectation of the other users' attention and presence. Presence, when it's a quality of the medium, can (for some) take on relational attriutes: expecation, anticipation, as well as waiting. I think the gist of my post was more on the user experience, and on attention and flow — emphasis on how we experience time, that when we use realtime media it’s always w/ an immediacy, and that in realtime media this immediacy is sometimes accompanied by a higher expectation of the oher’s presence.

Time that is captured as history, in other words, would be a different matter, as it comes with no expectation of the other users’ attention and presence. Presence, when it’s a quality of the medium, can (for some) take on relational attriutes: expecation, anticipation, as well as waiting.

]]> By: Adina Levin http://johnnyholland.org/2009/11/realtime-streams-now-and-then/#comment-109762 Adina Levin Tue, 24 Nov 2009 04:45:23 +0000 http://johnnyholland.org/?p=4569#comment-109762 Following this line a few steps further, how is this different from other online media, and what are some of the consequences of this difference? Forums and mailing lists are also asynchronous - you post in your own time, tautologically, and wait for a response. There is a big differences: threading - a topic accumulates a thread, with multiple participants, and each contribution has less burden in seeking its response. Twitter has replies, but the threading is quite tenuous; facebook and friendfeed have more visible comments, but the ratio of post to reply is still high, with more burden on the post seeking reply. Speaking anecdotally, there seem to be a few social patterns that arise in consequence. One is people's use of time-based rituals to convey availability and standing topics for small talk. Another is the emergence of memes and sharing games, creating opportunities for interaction. A third is the appeal and success of Twitter for q&a, precisely because it doesn't burden any single follower with the obligation to respond; response or the lack thereof is socially easy and karma-friendly; so questions easily call answers. Are there other social patterns that draw on this property of time and separation? Following this line a few steps further, how is this different from other online media, and what are some of the consequences of this difference?

Forums and mailing lists are also asynchronous – you post in your own time, tautologically, and wait for a response. There is a big differences: threading – a topic accumulates a thread, with multiple participants, and each contribution has less burden in seeking its response. Twitter has replies, but the threading is quite tenuous; facebook and friendfeed have more visible comments, but the ratio of post to reply is still high, with more burden on the post seeking reply.

Speaking anecdotally, there seem to be a few social patterns that arise in consequence. One is people’s use of time-based rituals to convey availability and standing topics for small talk. Another is the emergence of memes and sharing games, creating opportunities for interaction. A third is the appeal and success of Twitter for q&a, precisely because it doesn’t burden any single follower with the obligation to respond; response or the lack thereof is socially easy and karma-friendly; so questions easily call answers.

Are there other social patterns that draw on this property of time and separation?

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